CARBONE ROUND-UP

Carbone , 2013 New York's Hottest New Restaurant. Without Question? Here is a little round-up of Carbone  so-far as of April 27, 2013, reviews, articles, snipits, Bits & Bites on The Hottest Restaurant in Town, The Town of Manhattan, New York, it's "Carbone."

HISTORY: Cooks/Chefs Rich Torrisi and Mario Carbone are both Graduates of The Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park .. They both enhanced their culinary training with stints abroad, Torrisi in France and Carbone in Tuscany, Italy .. Both worked under top chefs in highly respected New York restaurants; Torrisi at; Aquavit,Cafe Boulud, and A Voce, Carbone at Babbo, Lupa, and with Daniel Boulud and Wylie Dufressne. Both met at The Culinary Institute and kept in touch and new each other from both being in the business in New York.

In 2009 Rich Torrisi and Mario Carbone joined forces to open their own place, Torrisi Italian Specialties. Torrisi Specialties had a great concept, operating as an Italian Deli by day, selling soup, mostly Snadwiches like their famed Roast Turkey, Chicken Parm, and Meatball Parm, as well as a few Antipasto, and Pasta Dishes. At night the place operated as a restaurant serving a Set-Menu 5 Course Dinner for $55.00 ...  The place was small and nicely outfitted with Italian American and Italian Food Products lining the walls serving as decor; Olive Oil, Canned Tomatoes, and Pasta. The place served great food, and was a instant and huge success. The critics, people, and bloggers loved them. A couple years later they opened Parm next door which is open for lucnh and dinner serving Italian Red Sauce style food, of: Chicken Parm Sandwich or Plate, Chicken Frances Plate or Sandwich,, Meatball Parms, Ziti and such. Parm has been a huge success from day one.

Move ahead to 2012 ... Rich Torrisi and Mario Carbone, along with business partner Jeff Zalaznick acquire the space that was formerly the long-time Old-School Italian Red Sauce Joint, the much loved Rocco's ... The put together a plan for their latest ventured, fashioned after 1950's Dowtown New York Italian Red Sauce Joints. The restaurant will be named Carbone after Chef/Partner Mario Carbone.

Carbone opens to much fanfare both good and bad in March of 2013 .. Some love the place, some not, but mostly people love it. Some people, maybe old-school Italians or lovers of old-school Italian Red Sauce Restaurants are inrage that The so-called Torrisi Boys have taken over the beloved Rocco's and as they think pushed the people of Rocco's out with a

 unruly back handed deal. And the people who don't like Carbone and the people behind it' Torrisi, Carbone, and Zalaznick are hyper enraged when they see that the Carbone Team has kept the famed old Rocco's Sign and superimposed the name Carbone in neon over the old Rocco's sign. Much name calling and anger is vented on all the Foodie Comment Boards on Eater, Grub Street, Chow Hound and such ...

GAEL GREENE

"GAEL GREENE GOES To WRONG CARBONE" !!!

Gael Greene's Famed TWITTER TWEET March 29, 2013, After Going to The WRONG CARBONE, Carbone Ristorante on West 38th Street 
in Hell's Kitchen instead of "Hot" New CARBONE in 
GREENWICH VILLAGE ...

Spent 20 minutes at wrong Carbone last.Finally grumpy owner there gave me address of THE Essential new Carbone, Missed seeing Tony Bennett.

Excerpt of Gael Greene's Review After She Finally Makes it to The Right Carbone on Thompson Street in Greenwich Village, New York ...

"Some prices will seem scarily inflated: like $45 for hot or cold antipasto (dare I assume it will serve two?), $38 for an appetizer of scampi alla scampi, the $140 Mixed Grill Cacciatore for two. Our bill Friday night was $112 per person with tip. Not outrageous, considering the floorshow. And Carbone is fun.  Half of what I tasted was very good. But keep in mind this is really just an early first impression."

Waiter Mixes CAESAR SALAD

TABLE SIDE at CARBONE

NIGHT of The NONNAS: 

TWO ITALIAN GRANDMOTHERS REVIEW CARBONE

On Grub Street

Fran sits back in her chair and sighs. "The cheese was the best thing."

All told, the bill is $480 after tax and tip — a high price even by 2013 standards. But how well did Carbone do in re-creating the feeling of mid-century fine dining in Manhattan? "I absolutely love the atmosphere," Annebeth enthuses. "But I can't say it’s reflective of any particular time I can remember."

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TIME OUT NEW YORK

The Feed: FIRST LOOK at CARBONE

"As at their Nolita hot spots, the pair will breathe new life—with primo ingredients and Cafe-Boulud trained technique—into nonna standards, culled from old-school genre masters like RAO'S and the menu archives at the New York Public Library. The food-historical toques will dispatch chicken scarpariello (cotechino sausage, morel mushrooms and piquillo peppers), ragù-slicked tortellini and lobster Fra Diavolo. The retro-inspired decor in the time-honored Rocco’s space recalls 1950s New York: Servers bustle around the blue-and-white tiled floor (inspired by similar flooring seen in The Godfather) in vintage-style tuxes designed by Zac Posen. Sepia-toned art curated by cine-kid Vito Schnabel "

"CARBONE"  Garners 5 STARS 

From TIME OUT NEW YORK

"Whether you know a guy who knows a guy or simply scored your seat on OpenTable, you’ll feel like an insider as you pass under the antique neon sign hanging above the door, left over from Rocco, the 90-year-old joint this new hot spot replaced. Those swarming waiters ply every table with complimentary extras, swooping in with a hollowed cheese, big as a drum, stuffed with sharp chianti-soaked Parmesan nuggets, with smoky whispers of Broadbent ham carved from a haunch on a dining room pedestal."

Carbone

by Daniel Bellino Zwicke

Copyright 2020  Daniel Bellino Zwicke 

RECIPES

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Copyright 2018 Daniel Bellino Zwicke

ROCCO'S

GREENWICH VILLAGE 

NEW YORK

RECIPES

The Old Rocco's

Greenwich Village New York

Photo Daniel Bellino Zwicke 2005

Carbone

MEMORIES of ITALIAN FOOD

ITALY NEW YORK & NJ

STORIES with RECIPES

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EAR INN and OLD NEW YORK BARS

Forget "Carbone" and overpriced $50.00 Veal Parms and overpriced Ripp-Off Cocktails all over New York! Give me The Ear Inn and places like it. Places like Fanelli's, Pete's Tavern, The White Horse, and McSorleys. Places I can get a drink or a Beer or two and a bite to eat and not be charged "An Arm and A Leg." Please? The Ear Inn is "Real" and un-contrived. I like that. It's Historical and Old. Ditto to liking that. Great ambiance and good food and drink at very fare prices. I like that.

MY BRUNCH at The EAR INN

CORNED BEEF HASH

Topped With 2 Poached Eggs

BLOODY MARY, COFFEE

and a Basket of Bread That Includes

A CROISSANT and 2 MINI MUFFINS

PLUS ATMOSPHERE 

ALL For JUST $13.50

COFFEE & BLOODY MARY

photo Daniel Bellino-Zwicke

BRUNCH CHECK

EAR INN

JUST $13.50

plus Tax

EQUALS $14.70

McSORLEY'S ALE HOUSE

East 7th Street,  NEW YORK, NY

Since 1854

PJ CLARKE'S

3rd AVENUE at 55th Street

NEW YORK, NY

Since 1884

photo Daniel Bellino Zwicke

PETE'S TAVERN

Irving Place in Gramercy park

New York, NY

Inside PETE'S TARVERN

Since 1864

The OLD TOWN BAR

Inside The New Town Bar

18th Street Union Square / Flatiron

PETER McMANUS

CHELSEA

NEW YORK, NY

Peter McManus is The Sort of Forgotten Stepchild

of Old New York Bars .. Everyone talks about PJ Clarke's,

McSorley's, & The Old Town Bar, and most Forget

or Don't Even Know of This Wonderful 

Old Bar, Peter McManus on 7th Avenue in Chelsea ...

It's one of the few remaining old sailors bars left

from the days when New York had the bigges

and Greates Merchant Marine Fleet in the World, The Hudson River

just a few blocks from this bar, used to be lined with Piers

and Ships docked at them from The Battery all the way up 

to West 60th Street .. Few Piers remain, other than 

The Passenger Ship Terminal in the West 50s

and a few other scattered piers.

MINETTA TAVERN

Minetta Lane & Macdougal Street

GREENWICH VILLAGE,  New York

photo Daniel Bellino-Zwicke

La TAVOLA 

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NEW YORK ITALIAN

CARBONE THE GOOD THE BAD And THE UGLY

THE GOOD


1)   These Guys are Accomplished Cooks and have done good things as
       far as Italian Restaurants and Italian Food is concerned.

2)    Good intentions, by the team at Carbone.

3)    Nice Decor.

4)    It's in Greenwich Village.

5)    Many Good comments on; Eater, Chowhound, Foursquare, Yelp, and ...

 

Some Good Comments Made on Foursquare, Yelp, and Twitter



RUTH REICHEL  TWITTER TWEET     @ruthreichL  on TWITTER
Dinner tonight:Carbone. Perfectly cast. The past on a plate. Great soundtrack.
To eat? Baked clams.Truffled carpaccio. Zuppa di pesce.

FRANK BRUNI  Tweet  @FrankBruni
Smashing dinner at NYC's new Carbone. If u go don't miss caesar salad, carpaccio w/black truffles, spicy rigatoni vodka, cheesecake. f u go don't miss caesar salad, carpaccio w/black truffles, spicy rigatoni vodka, cheesecake." 

Mathew W. on FOURSQUARE
The Veal Parm is out of this World!

George K. YELP
Incredible! My wife and I went there last night and had the best meal we've had in a long time. The T Bone steak is amazing!!!!! 
The Bow Tie pasta with lobster is one of a kind. Great atmosphere and staff!



THE BAD


1)    $87.00 For Lobster Fra D'Avlo Special
2)    What some deem insanely Over-Priced Specials and some Menu Items.
3)    $50.00 for Veal Parmigiano "VP" aka Veal Parm
4)    Zac Posen Unifroms
5)    Many Bad comments on Eater, Chowhound, Foursquare, Yelp, and ...
6)    Slammed by Two Italian Grandmothers on Grub Street
7)   $52.00 for Veal Marsala



THE UGLY

1)    Zac Posen Uniforms

2)     $45.oo Per Person for Hot Antipasto    

 3)    The took over the Old Rocco's space and many long-time Rocco's fans
        (and Local Italian Residents) are  outraged that they did, and that they
         are using Rocco's old sign and have Carbone superimposed over
         the old Rocco's sign with a big "Neon Carbone"

4)      Some followers on Eater, Yelp, Foursqure, etc., are getting downright
          nasty with their comments of Carbone the Restaurant and as many call
          them "The Torrisi Boys" meaning Mario Carbone, rich Torrisi, and
          Jeff Zalaznick


Guest Commentor on EATER "Cynical Criminal"

says, "These sc#mbags should cease and desist from using Rocco's imagery on
their website and TAKE DOWN IMMEDIATELY The SIGN of The FAMILY from whom they 
stole the restaurant from after 100 years."

CARBONE SLAMMED by GRUB STREET READERS And TWO ITALIAN GRANDMOTHERS

Carbone gets mixed reviews from Hugh Merwin, Grub Street and a coupled Italian Grandmothers ... Wow, that's a new tactic. And as the fourth-wheel in the equation Christopher Bonanos stated,"The Ladies Dined, then Took The Place Out."  Well sort of. Overall it seemed as though these two Grandmothers weren't that crazy about Carbone, but did not totally trash it, as many readers have, and the internet is filled with both disdain and adulation for the team of Carbone and Torrisi, depending on who you talk to. Some love and adore these guys and what they do, while many have nothing but disdain for them, as most of the readers comments bare out in the Grub Street piece "Night of Nonnas" Two Italian Grandmothers Review Carbone." The readers comments are pretty negative as concerns Carbone, with people complaining about the

 "HIGH-PRICED VEAL PARM at $52.00"  One comment said, "Go to Dominicks on Arthur Avenue," another said "Carbone was a big dissapointment," One person Dittoed that, while another reader said, "If you want great Old-School Italian Food (the kind Carbone is said to be aiming at)  At Reasonable Prices, Go to Monte's around the block on Macdougal Street."

Well, it seems to me, if you are trying to evoke a great ol Old-School New York Italian Restaurant of 1950's as these guys have promoted as thier Mission Statement, "You Don't Charge $52.00 for Veal Parmigiano,  $52.00  for Veal Marsala, nor $33.00 for Chicken Scarpariello." 

"It's Chicken fellas!"

Well the two Italian grandmothers Fran and Annebeth didn't like the Ravioli al Caruso, Annebeth said it tasted like a Chicken Liver Pierogi. They liked the Caesar Salad, and the Cheese "Parmigiano Reggiano" which they said was the best thing. They liked the Black Bowties with Lobster . The ladies said they liked the decor, but overall did not like the food, and siad that's what you want most in a good meal, good food.

 So it looks as though Carbone and Torrisi have some hurdles to overcome and time will tell if they do. Their first two restaurants have both been going with major success and most people love them, though it seems as though Carbone is not off to the flying start that Torrisi Italian Specialties and "Parm." have both seen, I for one wish these guys good look, and I think they'll make it. But I do think they do have to get real with the prices, and forget about $52 and  $33 Chicken dishes. That is, if Carbone and Torrisi want "Carbone" to be as they say, an Old-School 1950's style Downtown new York Italian Restaurant and not Expensive-Luxury like Cipriani, 

Del Posto, or that over-rated rip-off joint IL Mulino.

                Vincent Motta

ITALIAN IN GREENWICH VILLAGE

ITALIAN IN GREENWICH VILLAGE

Restaurants, Caffes, Pastry Shops, Pork Stores, Pizzerias

THE BEST of NEW YORK ITALIAN FOOD 
IS IN "GREENWICH VILLAGE"

MAP of Greenwich Village Italian

1)    Da Silvano
2)    John's Pizzeria
3)    Raffetto's Pasta
4)    Porto Rico Coffee   
5)    Caffe Reggio
6)    Bar Pitti
7)    Carbone
8)    Joe's Dairy ... Fresh Made "Mozzarella"  
9)    Minetta Tavern .. "Yes It's Italian" Born Italian ...
10)  Rocco's Italian Pastries
11)  Faicco's Pork Store & Italian Specialties
12)  Florence Prime Meats  "INVENTED THE NEWPORT STEAK" 

BATALI NOT THE ONLY MARIO IN TOWN

 

Yes Boys and girls "Mario Batali" is no longer the only Mario in Town ! The town of Greenwich Village that is where Mario Batali has been The King Mario for some years now with such renowned restaurants as; Po', Babbo, and Lupa .. Here comes Mario, Mario Carbone that is, a former employee of Mr. Batali at Del Posto where Mario Carbone was a Sous-Chef before opening two renowned restaurants of his own, Torrisi Italian Specialties and "Parm" both side-by-side in 

Noho / Little Italy ...

Mario Carbone is now opening his namesake restaurant "Carbone" in the old Rocco's space on Sullivan Street across from Mario Batali's Roman Trattoria "Lupa." Mario Carbone with Co-Chef and Business Partner Rich Torrisi unlike Batali who mostly serves hard-core-authentic Italian Cuisine (of Italy) with Batali twists here-and-there will be serving Italian-American Classics. Mario Carbone that is. Carbone promises old New York Italian Favorites like; Baked Clams, Meatballs, Linguine Vongole (Clam Sauce), Lobster Fra D'Avlo and other Italian and Italian-American Classics. Carbone also says that they are looking to evoke 1950's Downtown New York Italian style restaurant.

Torrisi and Carbone have done a fine job with their two previous restaurants Parm and Torrisi Italian Specialties and we're hoping they will continue, and expect they will at "Carbone." These guys are loved by their followers, yet disdained by some and have already receive quite a bit of negativity on the Internet it seems from the mainly fans of Rocco's who don't want to see these guys at Rocco's and in the neighborhood. I for one used to go to Rocco's and loved the place. I also like what Torissi and Carbone are doing, and I'm looking forward to Carbone being quite good. If I can't have Rocco's, I'll take Carbone, and am hoping and betting this Mario is gonna be a Winner in The Village, and Greenwich Village Italian and the long honored history it has. good Luck boys!

Daniel Bellino-Zwicke

RONZONI SONO BUONI

RONZONI

MEZZE RIGATONI

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"Ronzoni Sono Buoni," if you are Italian and grew up in the New York area in the great decades of the 1960's and or 70s you know the slogan. We Italians do love our pasta, we're weened on it! Pasta is the main staple of our diet. Many are fanatical about and love it so, they insist on having it several times a week. I'm one. Pasta, can be covered in a wide variety of sauces,  in some soups like; Pasta Fagoli (Pasta Fazool), in Minestrone's, with Pasta and Peas, and Pasta con Ceci (Chick Peas). Yes, we are weened on it. Mommy gave me, my bothers and sister Pastina coated in a bit of butter and Parmigiano when we were just toddlers  and every so often I have to pick up a box of Ronzoni Pastina, as I love and crave it still, and of late as with many my age, you start craving things you loved as a child, thus my stints with PASTINA ."Ronzoni Sono Buoni," it means, Ronzoni is So Good, and that it is. This brand of  Pasta, born in New York City at the turn of the 20th Century has been a mainstay of not only Italian-Americans of the East Coast but, for all. For years before the surge of many a imported pasta product in the U.S., Ronzoni, was not the only game in town for Macaroni, there was the Prince and Creamette, as well, but Ronzoni dominated the market and though I don't have stats, I would wage to say that 85 to 90 % of all commercial pasta sold in the New York, New Jersey, and Philadelphia areas was Ronzoni, the pasta in the bright blue boxes, Ronzoni Sono Buoni. God I wonder how many plates and bowls of Spaghetti, Ziti and other Ronzoni pastas I ate over the years, starting with Pastina as a toddler  and moving to Spaghetti with Tomato Sauce or Meatballs, Baked Ziti, Stuffed Shells and more. Oh “Stuffed Shells,” they bring back memories of my mother who loved them. We had them often, along with Lasagna made with Ronzoni Lasagana. You don't see Stuffed Shells around that much any more, they used to be on many a restaurant and even more home menus. There popularity has waned, but every once and a while I'll pick up a box of Ronzoni large shells, just for the purpose of bringing back those memories of mom making them and me loving them as  a child. I'll make a batch of tomato sauce, cook the Ronzoni Shells, and stuff them with ricotta and Parmigiano, bake them in tomato sauce, and "Voila" Stuffed Shells of days gone by. I do the same with a Pastina as I still love the dish so, dressed with butter and fresh grated Parmigiano Reggiano, “makes me feel like a kid again!” Yum, delicious little pleasure you can whip up in minutes and bring back visions of your youth. All with some butter, Parmigiano and a box of Ronzoni Pastina. That's Ronzoni, every bit a part of my life and youth as a spring ol Slinky, Etch-A-Sketch, The Three Stooges, Saturday Morning Cartoons, and all the favorites of my youth, Ronzon Sono Buoni, “Ronzoni it's so good!”

SPAGHETTI

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SEGRETO ITALIANO

SECRET ITALIAN RECIPES

SALSA SEGRETO

FAMOUS PASTA SAUCE

RECCIPE

Of GINO'S

NEW YORK

RONZONI MACARONI COMPANY

LONG ISLAND CITY, QUEENS NEW YORK

1918

RONZONI FACTS 

From an Article in the New York Times 1974

I'm sure these facts are no longer true, as many Americans now buy a lot more imported Italian pasta then they did back in 1974. In the 1950's, 60's 70's  and even into the 1980's  Ronzoni dominated the past market, not only in New York, but for the entire country. 

1  -   New York is the largest market for pasta in America, accounting for 20% of all pasta sales in

         America, comes from New York.

2  -   Ronzoni sells more than 40% of all pasta sold in New York.

3  -   Ronzoni's sales were more than $40 Million dollars in 1973.

RONZONI PASTINA

"NO MORE" !

SAD NEWS

The Ronzoni Macaroni Company is discontinuing Pastina, due to low sales. "What" ? Yes folks, it's true.  After 107 of being one of Italian-America's favorite pastas, and the one maccheroni products is always the first one we eat, as Italian mothers feed their little babies Ronzoni Pastina, dressed in a little butter as one of the first solid foods their baby will eat, thus one of Italian-America's most time honored traditions. We all Love our pastina. But no more. Not Ronzoni Pastina anyway. Yes, a sad day for us Italians. We will have to find another brand of pastina, even though Ronzoni's is our most beloved, it will be no more.

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SUNDAY SAUCE ....... Daniel Bellino Zwicke

SUNDAY SAUCE
Meatballs

and the "Meatball Parm Sandwich" you make on
Monday after the Sunday you make the sauce.








SUNDAY SAUCE


One of the great traditions of the Italian American enclave in the U.S. is the ritual of Sunday afternoon when the entire family gets together for Mama’s or Nona’s famed “Sunday Sauce.” What is it? Well there are a number of variations on the theme. Most Sunday Sauce’s are made with Italian Sausage, Braciola, and Meatballs. Some people make theirs with pork ribs, beef neck, and possibly chicken thighs and backs. These meats are slowly simmered for several hours with tomato, minced onions, garlic, celery, and carrots. I generally like to make my Sunday Sauce with sausage, meatballs, and pork ribs. Other times I’ll make it with sausage, ribs, and braciola. An old tradition in some families is that mother or grandma would start the sauce early on a Sunday morning, get it simmering away for a couple hours on top of the stove, then put it in the oven for a couple hours while everyone goes to church, the sauce slowly simmers and when you get back home, the sauce is ready.
The Sunday Sauce that my mother would make was with sausage, meatballs and beef braciola. My memories are vivid watching my mother stuffing the braciola with garlic,
parsley, Pecorino, and pignoli nuts, then sewing up the bundles with a needle and thread so they would hold together while simmering in the gravy (many families all over the New York and around the country simply call Sunday Sauce “Gravy”). Another fond memory was helping my mother roll and shape the meatballs.
As for me, my Sunday Sauce will vary depending on my mood. One thing I love to do when making the sauce is the addition of pork spare ribs, which not to many people use, I love it.
Whenever people eat my sauce, they go nuts for the ribs and some are surprised cause they might never have had them in a sauce before. They didn’t know that you could use pork spareribs. The ribs are traditional with some but not everybody. It is quite a shame for those who don’t add the ribs because they give the sauce some wonderful flavor and they are incredibly delicious to eat after braising in the sauce for a couple of hours. Whenever I make the sauce and I’m dishing it out to friends and family, I always make sure that I have my fare share of the ribs. Pork ribs cooked in this manner, simmering in the sauce are oh so succulent and tasty. They are far beyond compare. “They are Out-of-this-World!!!” The friends, one-by-one, go nuts for them. “Yes they are most than tasty!”
And what to serve with the Sunday Sauce you ask? It should be a short macaroni; rigatoni, ziti, or gnocchi are best.
The rituals of cooking, serving, and eating Sunday Sauce is a time honored one. It is a beautiful thing. If you mention the term Sunday Sauce to any number of millions of Italian-Americans, the wheels start turning in their heads. Thoughts of how tasty it is, all the different components; the meatballs, sausages, braciola, (maybe ribs, beef or pork neck), the pasta, and the gravy itself.
They think about sitting at the table with friends and or family, people they love. They think about the antipasti that will start the meal and about some good Italian Wine, maybe a nice Chianti. They think about the warmth in the air, loved ones, Dino, Sinatra, and of course, the
Sunday Sauce itself. “It’s a beautiful thing!!!” If you’ve never done it, “Try it!” If you haven’t cooked one for some time, plan a get-together soon. “Sunday Sauce, it brings people together,” in a most delightful way.